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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT WED OCT 03 2007


BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE HAS FORMED TO THE EAST OF THE BAHAMAS
WITH A SURFACE TROUGH ANALYZED ALONG 29N71W TO OVER THE BAHAMAS
NEAR 22N75W. CLUSTERS OF SCATTERED MODERATE/STRONG CONVECTION
COVERS A LARGE AREA E OF THE SURFACE TROUGH FROM 20N-28N W OF
61W. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS HAVE BECOME FAVORABLE FOR FURTHER
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM...AND A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD
FORM IN THIS AREA DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. THIS SYSTEM IS
EXPECTED TO MOVE LITTLE TODAY BUT BEGIN A SLOW WESTWARD MOTION
ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote

Surface low forming at 25n - 72W.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/sloop-ir4.html
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote

NHC has it at 26.1N- 73W.


TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0018 UTC THU OCT 4 2007

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL922007) 20071004 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
071004 0000 071004 1200 071005 0000 071005 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 26.1N 73.0W 26.3N 74.0W 26.1N 75.2W 25.7N 77.1W
BAMD 26.1N 73.0W 25.7N 73.7W 25.0N 74.9W 24.2N 76.5W
BAMM 26.1N 73.0W 26.0N 74.0W 25.7N 75.2W 25.2N 76.9W
LBAR 26.1N 73.0W 26.1N 73.6W 25.8N 74.4W 25.2N 75.6W
SHIP 20KTS 24KTS 30KTS 35KTS
DSHP 20KTS 24KTS 30KTS 35KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
071006 0000 071007 0000 071008 0000 071009 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 25.3N 79.3W 24.6N 84.4W 24.0N 88.7W 22.6N 91.9W
BAMD 23.5N 78.4W 22.5N 82.3W 22.2N 85.5W 22.3N 88.3W
BAMM 24.8N 78.9W 24.1N 83.1W 23.8N 86.8W 23.2N 89.8W
LBAR 24.7N 77.3W 23.2N 81.5W 22.6N 85.7W 23.0N 89.1W
SHIP 44KTS 56KTS 68KTS 72KTS
DSHP 44KTS 56KTS 68KTS 72KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 26.1N LONCUR = 73.0W DIRCUR = 270DEG SPDCUR = 2KT
LATM12 = 26.1N LONM12 = 72.6W DIRM12 = 270DEG SPDM12 = 2KT
LATM24 = 26.1N LONM24 = 72.2W
WNDCUR = 20KT RMAXWD = 45NM WNDM12 = 20KT
CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1011MB OUTRAD = 120NM SDEPTH = S
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote

The Shear Monster has had control over the whole Atlantic basin for most of the season. The basin is contaminated by upper level lows, TUTTS, and troughs. This looks more like a El Nino basin instead of a La Nina basin. 92L is a complete mess with mini vortices devoid of convection wandering about aimlessly like Chris when awakened at 2 AM to feed the baby. (thought that made a good analogy) Very Happy
After looking at the latest maps, charts, satellite pics, model runs, and talking it over with the Woolly Caterpillar, checking which side of the Palm tree has moss growing on it, and looking at the Playboy calendar, I expect 92L to get it's act together when it reaches the northwest Caribbean, and that's if it doesn't slip through the Florida Straits which some of the models are forecasting. whew...long sentence. Should any English teachers stumble upon this post please accept my condolences and apologies for causing you pain and anguish.
Ok, back to 92L. Timing is going to be real important as to the expected movement of 92L once it comes out of the northwest Caribbean. A faster movement would mean that 92L would cross the Yucatan and move southwest to Mexico due to the location of a strong high pressure cell to the north. A slower movement would bring 92L north out of the Caribbean as it would feel the pull of a strong upper trough that should be north of the Gulf of Mexico next week. The slower solution would put the north and east gulf states in danger as the track would be trending northeast.
As for intensity......I have no clue. Too many variables. SST's are never a problem in the NW Caribbean but just how much of a land interaction track by 92L will be a key factor. Hopefully if this does develop and does come north out of the Caribbean, the Shear Monster will make another appearance. Best outcome........nothing develops at all. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote

ccstorms wrote:
92L is a complete mess with mini vortices devoid of convection wandering about aimlessly like Chris when awakened at 2 AM to feed the baby. (thought that made a good analogy) Very Happy


Laughing No doubt about that. It takes a few minutes to catch my bearings and then once I figure out what's going on I'm awake and can't get back to sleep. Confused

As far as the storm, I really hope this produces some nice precipitation for a few days. We are still way below average and need the rain really bad before the season is done. I just hope it doesn't turn into a monster and creeps in our backyards with high power winds. I'd hate to have no power, no a/c and a hungry child. Yikes.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote

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No worries mon . Check out the latest satellite maps. Nothing coming our way. Maybe an afternoon shower or two over the next day or so, then POP falls off. Dry season pattern then starts to set in. :damn:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote

Gotta' disagree about the onset of the rainy season, Bob. I still see 92L progressing in a westerly fashion and regardless of its strength, it should be enough of a circulation to pull another swath of moisture in its wake. I see our scattered diurnal pattern continuing all the way up to around the 15th. Now, a given location obviously won't get nailed each and every day, but at least our summertime afternoon and evening convection pattern should be continued past the normal cutoff dates. Just my opinion.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote

No, I agree. Rain for a few days, but then drier times.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote

Yah Mon..We bow down to "Da Shear Monster " Gators and Tigers and Shear..oh MY Exclamation Seems to be a real mess out there alrighty. At least we can look foward to a "little" precipitation and some sports this weekend.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Next area of concern now Invest 92L. Reply with quote


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